In this episode, Markus welcomes two influential guests, Pablo Tello from CERN and Ian Carnelli from the European Space Agency (ESA). They explore the MINDCOLLIDER project, a brainchild of Markus that brings together brilliant minds from particle physics and space exploration to help inspire solutions to very mundane or pressing global problems.
Guest Funds:
- Pablo Tello: Scientist at CERN in Geneva, known for his interdisciplinary approach and contributions to particle physics. He co-directs IdeaSquare, a CERN facility that fosters innovative thinking.
- Ian Carnelli: Director of ESA's HERA mission, focused on developing technologies to protect Earth from asteroid impacts. He returns to the podcast with updated knowledge and experiences.
Conversation Highlights:
- Innovation and Anticipation: Pablo highlights the importance of anticipation in technological development, especially in long-term projects like the LHC. He emphasizes thinking in orders of magnitude and challenging existing paradigms.
- Interdisciplinary collaboration: Ian discusses the importance of interdisciplinary working at ESA, where knowledge from diverse fields is combined to drive innovation. He explains how imagining scenarios in space can lead to ground-based solutions.
- Challenges and failures: Both guests highlight the need to accept failures in the innovation process and the importance of a culture that accepts risk.
- Future vision: The conversation turns to the broader implications of space and particle physics on sustainable development and social progress.
Notable quotes:
- Pablo Tello: “Innovation management is an oxymoron. The more management you have, the less innovation.”
- Ian Carnelli: “Success is not in those who succeed; To succeed, you actually have to fail.”
Five key learnings for organizations:
- Embrace the young generations: Listen to and empower young people when they bring new perspectives and innovative ideas.
- Avoid Overmanagement: Too much management stifles creativity and innovation. Let people explore and take risks.
- Accept failure: Failure is an integral part of the learning process and a stepping stone to success.
- Have a vision: A clear, strong vision drives long-term success and inspires others.
- Promote collaboration: Shift the focus from individual achievements (me) to collective efforts (we).
Picks for the Space Cafe Podcast Playlist on Spotify:
- Ian Carnelli: Mozart Requiem
- Pablo Tello: “(I Can't Get Any) Satisfaction” by The Rolling Stones
Additional resources:
- Visit MindCollider.io to learn more about the Mind Collider project.
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